No Carnian aged deposits in the Chinle Formation?

For the last couple of years one of the more intriguing hypotheses regarding the Chinle Formation is the possibility, based on proposed revisions of the Late Triassic time scale (Muttoni et al., 2004; Furin et al., 2006), that the entire unit was Norian-Rhaetian in age, rather than Carnian-Norian. The Carnian-Norian age was based on palynology (e.g., Litwin et al., 1991) as well as vertebrate biostratigraphy (e.g., Lucas and Hunt, 1993). In fact, a faunal and floral turnover near the middle of the Chinle Formation was hypothesized by many workers to possibly represent the Carnian-Norian boundary and was evidence for an end-Carnian terrestrial extinction. First noticed by Camp (1930) and Gregory (1957) this turnover was more fully documented by Long and Ballew (1985) who noted the presence of two distinct faunas differentiated by the phytosaurs “Rutiodon A” and “Rutiodon B”, as well as the aetosaurs Calyptosuchus and Typothorax. Lucas and Hunt (1993) subsequently named these the Adamanian and Revueltian land-vertebrate faunachrons.

Considered controversial, the hypothesis that most if not all of the Chinle is actually Norian received strong support by the recent announcement of a new 206Pb/238U age of 219.2 ± 0.7 Ma from the base of the Blue Mesa Member in New Mexico (Mundil and Irmis, 2008). This is important for several reasons, firstly, the Chinle Formation has very well documented vertebrate, invertebrate, plant and trace fossil assemblages and is arguably a keystone unit for study of the Late Triassic terrestrial record. Second, it is the basis for the Adamanian land-vertebrate faunachron which has been used to correlate the first appearance of dinosaurs globally (e.g., Heckert and Lucas 1999, 2000). The implications of this will be the focus of Randy Irmis’ presentation at the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology annual meeting next month and therefore will not be discussed further here. What I would like to discuss is the slight possibility that despite these new findings maybe not all of the lower Chinle is now Norian.

In the four corners are of the western United States (Arizona, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico), the Chinle Formation uncomformably overlies the Middle Triassic (Anisian) Moenkopi Formation and consists of seven members which from oldest to youngest are the Shinarump, Bluewater Creek, Blue Mesa, Sonsela, Petrified Forest, Owl Rock, and Rock Point (Note: another unit, the Mesa Redondo Member, is locally situated between the Shinarump and Blue Mesa members but is lithologically distinct from the Bluewater Creek and the relationships between these units are not completely understood). The date provided by Mundil and Irmis (2008) is near the Bluewater Creek/Blue Mesa contact. As the new hypothesized date for the Carnian-Norian boundary is now around 230 ma, this would still leave approximately 10 million years of Norian time below this contact and would presumably include the Shinarump and Bluewater Creek. This is important because instead of just having an uncomformity between the Moenkopi and Chinle that encompasses the Ladinian, this unconformity would now encompass the Ladinian-Carnian as well as a portion of the early Norian. Whereas this might possibly explain the lack of rhynchosaur material (believed to have died out at the end of the Carnian or in the early Norian) from the Chinle Formation, it would also suggest that the Chinle is not temporally equivalent to all of the Dockum Group (eastern New Mexico and Texas) or most of the Newark Supergroup (eastern U.S.) as previously supposed. I’m getting dangerously close to the contents of Randy’s SVP abstract here which is embargoed for the next month, so I will stop this line of thought, but what I want to look at in more detail is the possibility that the Shinarump may not be Norian.

The Shinarump member consists mainly of extrabasinal conglomerates and sandstones that fill paleovalleys carved into the underlying Moenkopi Formation. Once considered its own formation, the Shinarump is now considered to represent the basal member of the Chinle Formation. Unfortunately, the high energy environment that deposited the conglomerates and sands is not conducive to preserving fossils; however in some places mudstone facies do preserve material, most notably near Cameron Arizona. Ash (2005, 2006) has documented this flora and found that it is distinct from the rest of the Chinle Formation in possessing several forms, most notably a seed fern, that more closely resembles archaic forms from the Paleozoic. This suggests that the Shinarump, although still Late Triassic, may be much older than the rest of the Chinle. Unfortunately the vertebrates are not any help. Heckert et al. (2003) documented material that is purportedly from the Shinarump near Cameron, and found that the fauna contains metoposaur and phytosaur material typical of the rest of the Chinle. Furthermore, the flora does also contain forms found in the younger Chinle units including the pollen (Litwin et al., 1991; Ash, 2005). Finally in his excellent dissertation, Jeff Martz discusses in detail that Riggs et al. (1996), in an important but often overlooked paper, used detrital zircons to correlate the Shinarump (and the Santa Rosa Formation of the Dockum) with the marine Auld Lang Syne Group, which is early Norian in age (Martz, 2008). Thus, these authors (Riggs et al., 1996) had suggested a Norian age for the entire Chinle over a decade ago. Despite this, the idea that the Shinarump may still be Carnian is intriguing because it would suggest the presence of a sizeable unconformity (TR-4?) between that unit and the rest of the Chinle Formation.

One final note is that the faunal turnover mentioned at the beginning of this post is close to the base of the Sonsela Member based on detailed mapping and revised biostratigraphic work done by Jeff Martz and myself in Petrified Forest National Park. Thus this turnover (which may also correspond with a floral turnover) is in the early-middle Norian and does not represent an end-Carnian event. More on this later.


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  1. Its worth noting that there are no good radio-isotopic dates for the early Norian from marine strata. This is important because you need the radio-isotopic ages to be associated with a marine fossil record that includes the taxa that define the stage boundaries. That the Carnian/Norian boundary is at 230 Ma is really just a best guess based on correlation using magnetostrat, etc. I think there's more slop in the C/N boundary date - it could be as young as 225 Ma.

    I'm not too concerned about the age of the Shinarump Mbr - even if it is Late Carnian in age (still very possible), it's not a major source of paleontological, paleoecological, or paleoenvironmental info. When we talk about Chinle paleontological assemblages, we are usually discussing stuff from the Mesa Redondo, Bluewater Creek Mbrs, and above. No matter what, I do find the detrital zircon link intriguing.

  2. Agreed but I am a bit concerned about the possibility of not having any Carnian aged rocks preserved in the Chinle because it limits correlations with the rest of the global Triassic record and affects what we can say regarding the timing of appearances of members of the Chinle biota (e.g., dinosaurs) because essentially we are turning the movie on when it is already half over and wondering what we missed.

    Holy cow...I can't believe that that was all one sentence....

  3. Just one little correction: We are actually putting the Adamanian-Revueltian transition pretty high up in the Sonsela Member, slightly ABOVE the traditional Sonsela Sandstone. But, the important point is that it does not coincide with any of the postulated stratigraphic positions for the regional "TR-4" unconformity, either at the base of the Sonsela Sandstone, or lower at the base of the revised Sonsela "Member" (which is definitely NOT a single unconformable surface). It also does not precisely coincide with any chronostratigraphic boundary; not the Carnian-Norian, and not necessarily the Alaunian-Sevatian or anything else. When lthostratigraphic, biostratigraphic, and chronostratigraphic boundaries are treated as exactly equivalant, someone is probably oversimplifying.


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